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	<title>Comments on: Can &#8220;Medical&#8221; Acupuncturists Contribute?</title>
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		<title>By: tom chi</title>
		<link>http://www.medicalacupuncturefacts.com/2009/01/06/can-medical-acupuncturists-contribute/comment-page-1/#comment-367</link>
		<dc:creator>tom chi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Nov 2011 00:44:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s true. Proper context: 100,000 from medical mistakes (according to the AMA), another 100,000 from drug reactions.
Plus back surgeons say 80% of back surgeries fail.

A study of 2000 public workers who were to have spinal fusion surgery: 1/2 had it and 2 years later 27% were back at work on more narcotics. 1/2 didn&#039;t have it and 2 years later 67% were back at work on less meds.

M.D.s do great things many times and horribly destructive things quite often. That&#039;s not out of context that&#039;s reality! And when I said they were contributing with acu I meant the ones who have studied endlessly though they weren&#039;t required to do so with the b.s. laws governing them. And those are just a handful.

Make acu the primary medicine for non-emergencies, let M.D.s do the specialized tests AFTER the acu or for when acu is not indicated. Acu is great efficient inexpensive medicine. Yay!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s true. Proper context: 100,000 from medical mistakes (according to the AMA), another 100,000 from drug reactions.<br />
Plus back surgeons say 80% of back surgeries fail.</p>
<p>A study of 2000 public workers who were to have spinal fusion surgery: 1/2 had it and 2 years later 27% were back at work on more narcotics. 1/2 didn&#8217;t have it and 2 years later 67% were back at work on less meds.</p>
<p>M.D.s do great things many times and horribly destructive things quite often. That&#8217;s not out of context that&#8217;s reality! And when I said they were contributing with acu I meant the ones who have studied endlessly though they weren&#8217;t required to do so with the b.s. laws governing them. And those are just a handful.</p>
<p>Make acu the primary medicine for non-emergencies, let M.D.s do the specialized tests AFTER the acu or for when acu is not indicated. Acu is great efficient inexpensive medicine. Yay!</p>
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		<title>By: Charles</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Nov 2011 12:42:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;They kill 100,000 a year just with mistakes by their own count.&quot; Why don&#039;t we just do away with all of the physicians? I&#039;m sure you&#039;re family would do a lot better without them. 
How can anyone take what you say seriously whe you conclude with inflammatory remarks without context?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;They kill 100,000 a year just with mistakes by their own count.&#8221; Why don&#8217;t we just do away with all of the physicians? I&#8217;m sure you&#8217;re family would do a lot better without them.<br />
How can anyone take what you say seriously whe you conclude with inflammatory remarks without context?</p>
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		<title>By: Margaret Landry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Margaret Landry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 02:08:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I call what they do &#039;party tricks acupuncture&#039;  -- they can make something happen using specific points, but they do nothing for the patient&#039;s whole condition.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I call what they do &#8216;party tricks acupuncture&#8217;  &#8212; they can make something happen using specific points, but they do nothing for the patient&#8217;s whole condition.</p>
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		<title>By: Karen Lynette Bauer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karen Lynette Bauer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Feb 2009 19:40:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I totally disagree with you that they are making a contribution.  I am taking a Research Principles course at the moment, and what stuck out the most from reading numerous journal articles was that most of the time, the people doing the needling had at most 300 hours of training in acupuncture.  I have 1600 hours and have another 3 semester before I  complete my course of study.  You cannot reasonably argue that these people would perform the same sort of treatment that I would, given how much more I understand about acupuncture energetics and the meridian and zangfu connections that these &quot;medical acupuncturists&quot; simply cannot learn in that amount of time.  They do not practice standard acupuncture, they practice an enormously watered-down version of acupuncture that hardly resembles real practice in our field.  Not only that, but they have no knowledge whatsoever of the even deeper treatments available through classical medicine.  I&#039;m sorry, but I simply have to disagree with your assessment of their value to the field of research in acupuncture.  REAL acupuncturists should be the ones designing the studies.  We know how real acupuncture is done, and they simply don&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I totally disagree with you that they are making a contribution.  I am taking a Research Principles course at the moment, and what stuck out the most from reading numerous journal articles was that most of the time, the people doing the needling had at most 300 hours of training in acupuncture.  I have 1600 hours and have another 3 semester before I  complete my course of study.  You cannot reasonably argue that these people would perform the same sort of treatment that I would, given how much more I understand about acupuncture energetics and the meridian and zangfu connections that these &#8220;medical acupuncturists&#8221; simply cannot learn in that amount of time.  They do not practice standard acupuncture, they practice an enormously watered-down version of acupuncture that hardly resembles real practice in our field.  Not only that, but they have no knowledge whatsoever of the even deeper treatments available through classical medicine.  I&#8217;m sorry, but I simply have to disagree with your assessment of their value to the field of research in acupuncture.  REAL acupuncturists should be the ones designing the studies.  We know how real acupuncture is done, and they simply don&#8217;t.</p>
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